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Ole Dave
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prayers for Doc Ashby

#1 Post by Ole Dave » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:48 am

Just got off the phone with Doc Ed Ashby...

Wishing him a Happy Thanksgiving...

He could use some prayers...Lord knows the situations...

Ed is rather private dude, so I won't air laundry I don't have permission to share...

Suffice it to say that many knew of his back issues years ago.. then an inversion table and hot tub helped but since he's had 2nd bout of prostate cancer and many complications since...

Hand issues restrict him doing much of anything.

But...his outlook and attitude are excellent and such upbeat I wonder if he's being genuine but sure seems to..

So prayers sought for Doc to find some relief from the myriad of issues that are conflicting him right now...

He was pleased to hear that TH seems at least open minded to discuss his research in varied threads... :)
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#2 Post by Flemish Dave » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:34 am

maybe he could go with a recurve crossbow and we will just count it as a recurve lol! Glad to hear he is upbeat. Prayers already sent!!
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#3 Post by Carpdaddy » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:56 pm

Prayers out for him.

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#4 Post by Shadowhntr » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:46 pm

Prayers sent.

Mr Ashby is my hero,...I have such a high respect for the man. Id love to see him come join us here if or when he was able to. His teachings and research are always welcome here, and nobody will run him down for it. Sure hope he gets better soon.
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#5 Post by Longtrad » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:02 pm

Im sad that he is doing unwell and also sad because I see no one else picking up the torch and continuing the research.

Prayers going up for him.

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#6 Post by Ole Dave » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:42 pm

Thanks, Guys...

I mentioned the site to him, but with all he's handling now, (apparently better then I would), and being he's a two finger typist, I doubt we'll see him anytime soon... but he was glad to hear there is a cadre of guys willing to read and learn.

We discussed my view that too many SKIM his work, draw wrong conclusions and then disparage his results with ill conceived posts of quick interpretations unsupported by facts... That is exactly his view of what happens... conclusions are drawn that are NOT supported by data, which used to get him fired up a touch on another site and got his threads pulled so he quit entirely...since health occupies much of his time...

He did share today that he started out his testing on smaller deer-size animals and then moved up in size. He also stated that his earlier postings, like 2004, drew conclusions that were then later amended in later years When they learned MORE from further research, so you have to read all of his research "updates" to get the complete picture.

They are all on Tradbow and maybe still on TG, I don't know...
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#7 Post by Jamesh76 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:13 pm

Prayers sent

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#8 Post by Longtrad » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:56 pm

There seems to be a strange thing within the trad community where people get upset when you try to work out the nitty gritty details of why these sticks are doing what they are.


The biggest line of defence is something like "pffft dont need to worry with all that junk" or "gaah sounds like too much long range rifle talk to me"

long range rifle talk and stick bows? maybe they both are projectile weapons.... other than that.



I get the whole point that some of the technical aspects might not be that important since our own flaws in form, create more variables than we can solve but.....

we all think about things differently but really grinds my gears when people try to prevent others from having a discussion.

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#9 Post by Captainkirk » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:29 pm

Prayers up for the Good Doctor.
You may relay to him I am not a two, but a ONE finger typist, and I seem to post a bit now and again. (In fact, I typed the manuscript for my book with one finger!)
He would be most welcome here, if nothing more than just to read and offer a word or two on occasion. His work and research are held in the highest regard here, and please let him know that.
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#10 Post by Ole Dave » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:52 pm

Captainkirk wrote:Prayers up for the Good Doctor.
You may relay to him I am not a two, but a ONE finger typist, and I seem to post a bit now and again. (In fact, I typed the manuscript for my book with one finger!)
He would be most welcome here, if nothing more than just to read and offer a word or two on occasion. His work and research are held in the highest regard here, and please let him know that.
Kirk,

I can do that... He's struggling with some pretty personal stuff with a very cool attitude...things that may preclude him wanting to be on a computer much... but I will renew the invitation.. and your welcome.

LT,

I think some of it, from my own small personal experience, is that folks regard "Trad" as a "religion" of sorts and anything that harkens to things factual or technical is considered the "work of the devil".

All too often I hear it said or typed, "Trad is simple, just shoot and watch the arrows fly...if they hit where you're aiming, it's all good!"

Up to a point I agree, but then I say if you refuse to move forward and learn, do your own blood trailing at night on your hands and knees for a mile... there ARE better ways that aren't high tech...
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#11 Post by Shadowhntr » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:05 am

Good point Dave. I never understood what is so modern or high tech about front loaded arrows anyway. Many of the higher FOC arrows in history, were ancient with stone points. I dont think Dr Ashby found something brand new, but he did try to wake us modern archers up to the fact, that they had this all figured out even way back then. Idk if they knew the calculations and figures, but its obvious they knew what seemed to work best. UEFOC, is NOT new, its as ancient as can be...
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#12 Post by Ole Dave » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:48 am

Shadowhntr wrote:Good point Dave. I never understood what is so modern or high tech about front loaded arrows anyway. Many of the higher FOC arrows in history, were ancient with stone points. I dont think Dr Ashby found something brand new, but he did try to wake us modern archers up to the fact, that they had this all figured out even way back then. Idk if they knew the calculations and figures, but its obvious they knew what seemed to work best. UEFOC, is NOT new, its as ancient as can be...
Indeed...one of Ed's articles was of a s. pacific tribe (???) that has huge long serrated wooden points...in WWII a airbase was put on that island and when abandoned, they had access to metal.

They made steel points that Ed researched (and shot) that were 1000 grains! They shot flat bows off their knuckle with twisted up bark strings... Get this: arrows were up to 4' long! I don't recall if they even had fletch...some I've seen somewhere, did NOT!

He said he thought they were clowns maybe when he got there as each man had arrows that were varied in length in his poke... but it turned out that using all live natural fibers, they "TUNED" each arrow to THEIR bow... and some would be 4' and some way shorter, depending on the "spine" of that material.

Doc said he actually shot one of their bows a bit and actually got where he could hit something.. big news was this area was pretty open country and the animals they hunted were LONG SHOTS... with those 1000 gr. points and 4' arrows... Seriously!

There indeed IS NOTHING new under the sun!!! People survive and their survival dictates things we may never know... and even when exposed to their knowledge, some refuse to accept... The Ego of man will be his undoing! :(
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