Grizzly Attack

[polar bear]

Yep. I'm a member of PETA. People eating tasty animals.

All I'm trying to say is that people need to take responsibility for themselves. Use their heads for something besides keeping their ears apart. We only have the statement of a woman under stress and folks that came running to help when they hear the crys for help. The only other witness as to what happened is dead.

You and I both know that when someone is under duress that judgement is clouded. 20 people witness a crime. You have 20 different descriptions and 20 different stories as to how the crime went down.

I don't know for a fact that they were 100 yds away or that the attack was defensive or provoked.

I AM sorry that the man lost his life and the woman lost her husband. But unless they have an expert tracker that can read sign like we read these post we will never know for sure. Unless the bear learns to speak english and is willing to give a statement, we will never know what REALLY happened.

I have hunted and been hunted by the most dangerous game on earth. MAN. There have been times of stress during this period that I couldn't tell you if I was being shot at from 20 yds. or 200 yds. Only the good Lord and an army of angels protected me and brought me home.

I wish we did know all the right facts. If it was indeed an unprovoked attack then yes, remove the bear. But we really don't know for sure. We only have One witness to what actually happened.

[Tradman]

In my unbiased opinion any bear that attacks and or kills a human will never stop doing so and should be put down a.s.a.p. Just a matter of time until it kills again.As for the we dont know for sure that it was a hundred yards away or not theory goes...you dont know that it wasnt either,hell...it might have been even farther.I could see the bear attacking if they ran into them face to face but according to the lady they were quite a ways apart and walking away.

[Rick Barbee]

In my unbiased opinion any bear that attacks and or kills a human will never stop doing so and should be put down a.s.a.p. Just a matter of time until it kills again.As for the we dont know for sure that it was a hundred yards away or not theory goes...you dont know that it wasnt either,hell...it might have been even farther.I could see the bear attacking if they ran into them face to face but according to the lady they were quite a ways apart and walking away.

I agree 100% with this ^^^^^

It don't matter why. The bear needs to go.

Rick

[lil' longshot]

Perhaps this animal does need to be removed but kneejerking that anyone who doesn't agree might as well be a PETA member ?
Mmmmm ..... Not sure I am with you on that one Ken .

[Rick Barbee]

I also agree with the people needing to take responsibility, but the park is what it is,
and most folks who go into it really have no clue about the cruelty of nature.
They just want to go see the pretty animals.

Here's something that would help. Wouldn't solve the problem entirely, but would curtail such encounters considerably.
Open the park up for bear hunting for a few years, and the bear will start trying to avoid people.

Rick

[Tradman]

Bingo...right on the money rick. I am sick to death of people putting animals on the same playing field as man,they cannot think or reason things out,all they have the ability to do is attack or retreat and this bear attacked without real provocation.Open up a season every year and they will learn real quick who runs things.Back when you could still hunt with hounds in oregon you rarely saw a bear that wasnt running like hell the other way,now they are getting more and more aggressive towards humans.The thing about a national park is if they are going to allow people to walk the backwoods then the number one priority should be protecting those people.I would hazard a guess that a large majority of the people that do go on hikes into the back country have no idea what wild animals are capable of.I was chased by a black bear when i was a kid and let me tell you it stays with you for life.If i even see a dirty look from a bear i fully intend on shooting first and not giving it the chance to get ahold of me,if a bear can get past my s@w 500 then i guess i'm lunch.Heres an example...In the eaglecaps if a bear comes into your camp for any reason the fish and game guys prefer that bear be destroyed.Thats straight from a game wardens mouth.The bear that killed in yellowstone needs to be put down for the simple reason that it has tasted human blood and will not hesitate to attack again. jmtc

[AWPForester]

Agree 100% with Tradhubter's comment about once a man attacker, will always be one again. Also agree with Rick B. and Polar Bear about taking responsibility for what is possible and most peple having no earthly idea what nature is. With that said, kill her before she kills again. And unless she eat on the hiker she attacked out of motherly instinct. Eitherway, time for her to go.

As Rick said open some hunting opportunities up and things would change.

[Rick Barbee]

Exactly Larry.

Some folks think me coward for this, but I refuse to bow hunt anywhere that will not allow me to carry a side arm.
I've turned down some pretty good hunt deals for that very reason.
Naaa - I'm no coward. I ain't stupid either.

A bear, or any other critter that could do me harm gives me reason, and I'm sending a 240gr package (or several) it's way that will most likely change it's mind.
If it don't change it's mind then there wasn't much hope for me anyway, but at least I had a fighting chance.
I don't care how good you think you are with a bow, you won't have much of a chance with it against a charging bear.

Rick

[Tradman]

I dont mind letting threads like this go.its healthy to debate as long as we dont get to the name calling stage.Polar bear..you sent me a pm stating you were leaving tradhunter because osb said you might as well be a peta member,i re-read the entire thread and not once was that stated.You even said "let the flaming begin" now you're leaving tradhunter because of it? I don't get it.You do what you have to do sir,sorry to see you go.

[onesharpbroadhead]

tradhunter - thanks for not using rash judgement - and actually taking the time to read what was posted before making any decissions.