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Arrow Mass

#1 Post by Cookies »

Good morning, All!
Point of curiosity: I shoot carbon arrows, .400 spine, 8.1gr/inch with 125 gr points. Total arrow mass is 416 gr.
I'd like to get my mass up a bit, preferably into the 475-500 gr area. Currently my bow shoots with a bit more noise and hand shock than I'd like; as well as watching my arrows only sink 3-4" into my hurricane bag and ive read elsewhere that more projectile mass will help with that.
I'm too cheap/poor to purchase arrow weight tube (at $13 per 3 pack they cost more than my arrows!) And I'm leery about going up too much more than 25-50 gr in point weight, for fear of negatively affecting spine. Any other tips, tricks or know-how to make my arrows beefier While keeping them shootable?

I have several maerials at my disposal, from steel wire to paper, plastic, aquarium air line tubing...the list is endless.
Perhaps some experimentation is is order as well?

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#2 Post by Carpdaddy »

I would not worry about negative effects from increasing point weight, I think you will find that just the opposite is true. Do a search on FOC (front of center) and you will see that more weight up front is benefical. I use brass inserts to increase foc on mine. I am sir cheapo so understand where your coming from, I have used cotten rope in mine before, added 100 grain. End to end and sized to be tight and not easy to install. With what you are shooting I would thi.k that you are overspined and that more weight up front would be your best bet. Wouldn't hurt to try one and see. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

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#3 Post by Cookies »

I'll give that a try Tony, thanks.
I'm probably still going to experiment a bit though (can't help myself haha).

Case in point: brought an arrow to work today and slid a 29" piece of welding rod into it. Went from 416gr (27g)to 925gr. Perfect...If I want to stop a rhino :lol:
In case anyone wants to know, I weigh in grams then convert using Kyles Converter: http://www.kylesconverter.com/mass/grains-to-grams

Hoping to pick up some brass inserts and heftier points tomorrow (payday), as well as weigh out with a piece of paracord in there. It went in with none of the concerns you mentioned about cotton.

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#4 Post by Carpdaddy »

Oh my; the only response I see was from me, surely you didn't call me Kirk! Lol, I'm not sure which one of us should be offended. :lol:

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#5 Post by Cookies »

Oh dear me, no! I wouldn't dream of it :lol: . I'm too new here to start offending people (Not too young to edit my last post though).
As a point of interest, I weighed that paracord and it was 7g (about 108gr).

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#6 Post by scaler »

FOC does make a big difference, and if you shoot longbows, they love forward weight. Many of the new carbon arrows out there have weighted inserts that you can adjust. I have some friends who love them. I just put a 145g tip on mine and call it good.

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#7 Post by Carpdaddy »

Good thing you got that edited before Kirk saw it! Lol.
The cord may be too small in diameter, if so it would bunch up on one end. I used a clothes line rope, fit tight. Since you are shooting a recurve that is likely cut to center you can get by with a wider range on spine, shoot them from a longbow that is not cut to center and you will likely see what I mean. More weight up front will have other advantages also. My arrows are 600gr, I also have some at 550gr for different bow. Try a few heavy tips or inserts to see what you think.

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#8 Post by Captainkirk »

Me? Offended?
Those who know me, know that if you want to offend me, you gotta work at it. Pretty hard.
Carry on, men! No harm, no foul!
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#9 Post by woodsman »

I sometimes shoot .500 spine carbons with 250 grain field points or Zwicky Delta's on 125 grain steel broadhead adapters.

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#10 Post by Captainkirk »

Arrow mass is where archers go on Sunday morning.....
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